There are a number of magicians’ circles across the world. About Our Ads Often these groups insist that their members do not share the secrets of their works with non-magicians as it would break the so-called “Magician’s Code”. The two versions both featured roses, screen projections and cut parts. Teller's partner, Penn Jillette, has publicly stated, "No one knows how Shadows is done, and no one will ever figure it out. But the judge reads what Jillette had to say carefully. Create a commenting name to join the debate, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts. Copyright Office in 1983. Teller's magic performance was called Shadows and is described as such: "Shadows essentially consists of a spotlight trained on a bud vase containing a rose. Such rules, however, are only at club level and this case is one of copyright, which means both magicians are going to have to draw upon all their powers of persuasion to convince the judge. The most insightful comments on all subjects will be published daily in dedicated articles. The case now likely goes to trial on the question of what damages are to be awarded because the judge finds that Dogge has raised a genuine dispute of material fact whether he willfully infringed upon Teller's copyright. Terms of Use | After asking the site to take down the video, Teller said that he contacted Dogge and offered him money if he stopped performing and offering to sell the trick. The magician then takes a knife to the shadow, which appears to “trim” both the silhouette and the flower in the pot. Such rules, however, are only at club level and this case is one of copyright, which means both magicians are going to have to draw upon all their powers of persuasion to convince the judge. Please be respectful when making a comment and adhere to our Community Guidelines. His partner Penn Jillette, meanwhile has described it as “probably the best bit in our show”. See, for example, Robert Rice, aka The Mystery Magician, who sued Fox over its Breaking the Magician's Code specials, and wound up coming up short. What’s more, he has also offered to explain how to do the trick to anyone willing to pay $3,050. Are you sure you want to mark this comment as inappropriate? There are a number of magicians’ circles across the world. "In discerning substantial similarity, the court compares only the observable elements of the works in question. He once told a TV documentary about the magical pair, that he had seen them perform Shadows “at least a dozen times”. The 9th Circuit wrote : He included pictures. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Dogge, who goes by the name of Gerard Bakardy is accused of posting a video of trick called Rose & Her Shadow on YouTube. Dogge, though, attempted to explain that his "secret to performing the illusion" differed from Teller's. Directed by Don Weiner. ", EARLIER: Teller of Penn & Teller Breaks Silence to Sue Over Magic Trick. The magician then takes a knife to the shadow, which appears to “trim” both the silhouette and the flower in the pot. Teller is not the first magician to sue. Besides copyright, Teller also has an unfair competition claim, and the judge is throwing this to a jury as well to determine whether Dogge's YouTube videos were likely to cause confusion as to Teller's involvement with Dogge's commercial activity. The defendant challenged the validity of the registration as a pantomime drama, but the judge waives such objection off. More binding, however, is the US law, under which, tricks can be protected as “pantomimes”, something Teller appears to have done in 1983. If not willful, Teller might get up to $30,000. So Teller did a neat new trick. Now Teller is suing and seeking damages in his native Nevada. The trick itself involves a vase with a flower in it, being placed on a table on a stage between a spotlight and a white screen, so that it casts a shadow onto the screen. He emailed the court papers to Dogge and managed to convince the judge that his imitator had opened them. Teller is not the first magician to sue. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to Independent Premium. It's been an important part of his act and has had some mystique. In 1999, Fox TV’s series Breaking the Magician’s Code: Magic's Greatest Secrets Revealed incurred the wrath of illusionists around the world. More binding, however, is the US law, under which, tricks can be protected as “pantomimes”, something Teller appears to have done in 1983. Teller is widely known as a great magician, but he has just pulled off a feat that is without equal among his peers. Time will tell if other magicians attempt to follow in Teller's tracks in United States courtrooms. Raymond Teller, one half of the hugely successful duo Penn & Teller, is suing Gerard Dogge, a Dutch magician, claiming that he copied a trick called Shadows. the art of conveying emotions, actions and feelings by gestures. Please continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. ", Dogge next tried to argue that in Jillette's pronouncement that "no one will ever figure it out," the statement was a challenge and an invitation for others to copy. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. RAYMOND TELLER: The magician claims to have created the Shadows trick as a teenager, Penn and Teller star Raymond Teller sues magician over rights to magic, You may not agree with our views, or other users’, but please respond to them respectfully, Swearing, personal abuse, racism, sexism, homophobia and other discriminatory or inciteful language is not acceptable, Do not impersonate other users or reveal private information about third parties, We reserve the right to delete inappropriate posts and ban offending users without notification. Jason Alexander, one of the stars of the comedy Seinfeld, and a fan of Penn & Teller, is one of the trick’s biggest fans. In 1983, Teller even registered Shadows with the U.S. Jack Delvin, president of The Magic Circle of London, said that he encourages all magicians to take note the club’s rules, which "oppose the wilful disclosure of magical secrets other than to magicians or bona fide students and historians of magic" and "to oppose the wilful imitation, whenever and wherever possible, original magical inventions and original forms of presentation". "By arguing that the secret to his illusion is different than Teller's, Dogge implicitly argues about aspects of the performance that are not perceivable by the audience," he writes. Among the other arguments was Dogge's insistence that his own trick wasn't substantially similar. Dogge, however, asked for more money, which was rejected. Often these groups insist that their members do not share the secrets of their works with non-magicians as it would break the so-called “Magician’s Code”. See David Copperfield's lawsuit against a French magician who copied his flying routine. March 21, 2014 "Indeed, federal law directly holds 'dramatic works' as well as 'pantomimes' are subject to copyright protection, granting owners exclusive public performance rights. , and Teller has used it to his advantage. Jack Delvin, president of The Magic Circle of London, said that he encourages all magicians to take note the club’s rules, which "oppose the wilful disclosure of magical secrets other than to magicians or bona fide students and historians of magic" and "to oppose the wilful imitation, whenever and wherever possible, original magical inventions and original forms of presentation". You can also choose to be emailed when someone replies to your comment. The theatrical medium where magicians work has some of the flavor of pantomimes, and Teller has used it to his advantage. In the lawsuit he describes the illusion as having “iconic quality” and as the “oldest, most venerated piece of material in continous use” in Penn & Teller’s show. Sitemap | “There are moments when magic is so poetic that it just catches me.”. With Mitch Pileggi, Mark Thompson, Sybil Azur, Michelle Berube-Schneider. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to Independent Premium. | Cookie Settings. Privacy | "This statement merely provokes others to unearth the secret, not perform the work.". What’s more, he has also offered to explain how to do the trick to anyone willing to pay $3,050. Literally. He has prevailed in a lawsuit against another magician who put up a copycat illusion on YouTube. Breaking the Magician's Code: Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed is a series of television shows in which the methods behind magic tricks and illusions are explained.In its original incarnation there were four shows in 1997–1998 and a special in 2002 broadcast on the Fox network in the United States, and on Sky and ITV in the United Kingdom. Teller then enters the otherwise still scene with a large knife and proceeds to use the knife to dramatically sever the leaves and petals of the rose's shadow on the screen slowly, one-by-one, whereupon the corresponding leaves of the real rose sitting in the vase fall to the ground, breaking from the stem at exactly the point where Teller cut the shadow projected on the screen behind it.". If a jury finds Dogge's misappropriation to be willful, Teller will be entitled to up to $150,000 in statutory damages. The trick itself involves a vase with a flower in it, being placed on a table on a stage between a spotlight and a white screen, so that it casts a shadow onto the screen. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. 3:38pm PT Now Teller is suing and seeking damages in his native Nevada. Two magicians at crossed wands are heading to court over the rights to a magic trick. He once told a TV documentary about the magical pair, that he had seen them perform Shadows “at least a dozen times”. This defense incites Judge Mahan to offer an incredible rebuttal. As the judge notes in the opinion, "Though there are organizations, taken seriously by many in the magic community, that blackball any performer who reveals a magician's secret, Teller has opted to pursue this action…", Email: Eriq.Gardner@THR.com Our journalists will try to respond by joining the threads when they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss real-world solutions, and more. Create a commenting name to join the debate, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts. Our journalists will try to respond by joining the threads when they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. Dogge, who goes by the name of Gerard Bakardy is accused of posting a video of trick called Rose & Her Shadow on YouTube. The mere fact that a dramatic work or pantomime includes a magic trick, or even that a particular illusion is its central feature does not render it devoid of copyright protection. In the lawsuit he describes the illusion as having “iconic quality” and as the “oldest, most venerated piece of material in continous use” in Penn & Teller’s show. The following "big" secrets are revealed: Lady to a Tiger in a Cage, Levitating a Lady, Chinese Lantern (From Shadow to Flesh), Zig Zag Lady, Exploding Crate, Sawing a Lady in Half, Lady in a Sword Basket, Elephant Vanishing from a Cage. ", Belgian entertainer Gerard Dogge posted a YouTube video of an illusion called The Rose & Her Shadow and offered to reveal the secrets for $3,050. That case was in France, though. “The first time I saw Teller do the shadow illusion, I actually cried,” he said. Often these groups insist that their members do not share the secrets of their works with non-magicians as it would break the so-called “Magician’s Code”. It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss real-world solutions, and more. The light falls in a such a manner that the shadow of the real rose is projected onto a white screen positioned some distance behind it.
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