Dorne gets too much attention in this fandom for no reason at all. Personally, I think Sarella/Alleras might be important as well, but she’s not in the show, at least not yet. I thought that Doran was an incredibly boring character in the books. A well-written script builds its character from action and reaction, and provides meaningful story by showing how a character solves a conflict or attempts to do it. The vitriol over Dorne was out of fucking control. Surely, how else could the assassination of Myrcella play out? Also, Jon didn’t bait Ramsay out of Winterfell. So don’t use the idea of “Dorne was a late idea” to either criticise or justify it. They’ve avoided heavy criticism and flown under the radar so to speak, due to the embarrassment that are the Sand snakes. Yes, and I can understand why Siddig’s a bit pissed off. Also something to keep in mind is the writing also includes the plot, not just the dialogue. On bingewatches now I enjoy Dorne and my only complain is that we don’t spend enough time with Doran Martell. I think it also helped that GRRM used to look over the scripts. They’re doing it for themselves. Is the word ‘trademark’ truly never used that way where you come from? As for the Mormont men, all 62 pieces of ursine fierceness of them, they must technically be Davos’s, not Snow’s, for it was him who spoke last before Lyanna gave her support. I grew up in a cardboard box.’ ‘Well, I grew up in a hole in the road.” ‘At least you had a hole…’ et cetera. RosanaZugey: You know, I used to think I was just overly sensitive to criticisms about Sansa, but after reading that Sansa had “nothing” to do with the win, I realize its not me. I personally don’t think the source material is good to start with so rather than completely making up good, exciting stuff and forcing more scenes they may have just decided to reduce all of it. Unless youre in the mafia haha. Well said, Dee. Right after, she holds up the letter to read it but no stamp is on the letter…it’s disappeared! I’m pretty busy with work at the moment, but if somebody wants to formally investigate whose fandom takes the gold in the shit-talking olympics, you have my full support. You´re talking,sister! Oberyn was a very important character in season 4. I mean, who was the Blood Raven? And when a character disappears in a busy story like this, he doesn’t feel important. It certainly wasn’t better. Still, considering that the Sand Snakes were the most reviled part of the Dornish plot, I’m not sure why D&D thought that the way to do something about it was to kill of the cool people and leave the problematic ones alive. Back in Season 2, for example, they had 10 episodes, like four major storyline, X amount of shocking events, and they had to figure put how to fill the rest of it with interesting material. Isn’t he dreamy with his little man bun? Doran wanted peace. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have fantasy elements, it simply means that the show was realistic with the depection of events followed real life. Hence, Dany has to be defeated by Cersey and Euron and in a believable way which implies that she has to have some problems in her camp. I think they made some changes because of the backlash they got after Sansa’s storyline in season 5. I prefer Doran over the Sand Flakes any time. (It did seem weird the first time I saw it: but by now we have seen it dozens of times, and it is almost commonplace for shows to have small denouements for the prior season at the outset of a new one.). It is a matter of taste not quality, because from writing perspective that info was not important for S6. We trust him because he has a history of being honest with the fanbase; D&D have a history of outright lying or ignoring us even when they made obvious mistakes which weren’t even their active fault. So something happened; I have no idea what. They needed to develop Jaime’s humanity, and his link with Myrcella was a good way to do so. Anyway. It means that they didn’t talk about what you wanted them to talk. IMHO I believe that the Dorne plot was done in by the fact that they got to film in the Alcázar. I read somewhere that Cogman said they heard their fans response to the rape scene. What are YOU talking about? Since this week’s filming seems to have been focused on the godswood, I guess shooting has yet to start at the Winterfell location. So there is an enormous amount of spin going on. I am almost positive that those four episodes were leaked by HBO themselves. HotPinkLipstick: believe anything they say, this filming is all about lies, secrets and misdirection. Such a botch: ditching what was best about the Dorne storyline and hanging onto what was worst. I really don’t know where the Dorne storyline can go in the show. They’re like jealous little girls. Some are pretty dumb; some are vile; some are crazy and some are all of that and more at the same time. In my entirely subjective opinion, neither of them was unnecessary so I am pretty ok with their respective roles . They are the showrunners. I actually tried to read book 1 again this summer (I have the first three in English and the last two in my native language) and while I managed to read a couple chapters, I found out that I do not enjoy it as much as I used to and I got a feeling that I’m forcing myself to read it. If they did, SHAME! Or professional critics who praised S6? I know, I was stunned too when I counted up 40 minutes….a lot of them just kind of drag on. Because it’s not…trademarkable. The problem with these is, that the story momentum gets lost. What do you guys think? This from Firannion has my full concurrence. You’ve heard of ‘one-upsmanship’? Even veteran actors find advantage in being on the show. But yeah. I never had any problems seperating characters from their book counterparts in my head. Natalie Dormer even preempted D&D this season because her ‘visibility’ has gotten her tier A demand which caused problems with scheduling , Margaery Tyrell maybe alive by the end of the books. I don’t remember any real answer in his books. This is why Sansa/Jon reunion was so short, because the episode was too long anyway. The Martells and all the Sand Snakes were quite detestable in the books,as well! I still think it’s great, but it is more flawed than ever. Just like they kept Joffrey on screen before his death in the previous episodes (see him talking with Jaime in S4E1) to remind us of why he needs to go, they should’ve kept Ramsay onscreen as well. For instance, how much of Sansa’s storyline got changed as a reaction to season 5? It really is. Of course another piece is when Olenna brings the Tyrells over etc, Of course as the Prince of Dorne he has more authority than non-Noble Sands to make such deals but anyway the abomination Horse that is show Dorne has truly bolted out of the poorly designed Stable Door…. Done. It’s not hard to understand once you watch the Dorne scenes. Mr Fixit: I really DO NOT remember anyting like that from previous year. In the previous scene she asked Jon where Ramsay was and then we saw him in the kennels (where Jon or whoever he commanded had put him). They are sexy and they wield fancy weapons, but basically they are just bastard girls who want to play at war. He confirmed my suspicions that plans for Dorne got changed during the production. As has been stated, it was Brian Cogman who convinced them to include Dorne in season 5 by sending Jaime there. As fae as I remember they were playing slaps or arm wrestling .. You make it sound like benioff and Jason have been in a drunken fight .. Compare this with male characters do we have anything same as this …. Paddy Considine Cast in Lead Role in House of the Dragon! David Benioff and D.B Weiss explain why they omitted Lady Stoneheart, Game of Thrones returns to Saintfield estate for season 7, Watchers on the Wall Awards: Best Action Sequence of Season 6, George R.R. He did nothing for me. There’s something to be said about acting on information that something doesn’t work. Why so emotionally invested? The site is active and friendly again and I have a trust in admins. I can see how you’d not kill off the Sand Snakes, too, after all the promotional hype you’d surrounded them with at the start of season 5. Maybe show-Sam will meet her… Oh, an opportunity for a “love triangle”! Ah, they made Doctor Bashir cry.
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